Hello, I'd like to start a new "series" of philosophical threads. The first one will be about happiness. I was encouraged by some people from IRC yesterday. Please, if you don't have anything smart to say, then don't. Same goes for grammar, philosophy is very specific, and if you can't express yourself the right way, your message loses it's point.

 

 

I shall start. What is your view of hapiness? Does it really exsist? The way I look at it, hapiness is just a brief moment when all the real feels are absent. But how often does that happen? Surekly, achieving a certain goal does it, but the moment you achieve something, you want more. That's why I don't think happiness exsists at all, it's just that moment when you had no wishes, nothing to be greedy about. A moment so short, as short as it takes your brain to process the event of you achieving something and setting new goal.

 

Same thing goes for when you remember a moment when you had "fun". Do you really think you were happy at that moment, or is it just your brain decieveing you because you put on a fake smile at that moment. If you could read your mind from that moments, I doubt it would be happiness inside.

 

Are people chronically depressed? If they are, is depression normal state if human mind? Or is it just me who thinks like this?

Discuss.

What is your view of hapiness?

'Dunno, something that we (as humans) have made to think about feelings/get them/be >happy<.

Does it really exsist?

IMO, not really. Depends on your view of life. I'm >happy< when I'm stoned, or drunk, but that fades away ;p or when doing something good.

The way I look at it, hapiness is just a brief moment when all the real feels are absent.

Oh, those 'feelings' almost never seem to happen to me, I kinda just snap out of my 'mind' and realize something like; 'Oh, I'm in reality now' which repeats itself quite a few times a day.

Do you really think you were happy at that moment, or is it just your brain decieveing you because you put on a fake smile at that moment.

Depends. You have to 'think' a bit, to make your brain 'send' signals so that you can put on a fake smile, or those 'grins' or w/e.

If you could read your mind from that moments, I doubt it would be happiness inside.

Mine would be a pitch black space filled with words, nothing more, just random words.

Or is it just me who thinks like this?

You're not alone, trust me.

What is your view of hapiness?

Happiness is one of the most important thing in the society, since it's one of the feelings what is really important, without happiness people would be different in a negative way... Happiness can be reduce anger and hate in my opinion. Sometimes happiness keeps connection between people alive.

I hope I didn't ruin your thread. :|

 

Same thing goes for when you remember a moment when you had "fun". Do you really think you were happy at that moment, or is it just your brain decieveing you because you put on a fake smile at that moment. If you could read your mind from that moments, I doubt it would be happiness inside.

 

Are people chronically depressed? If they are, is depression normal state if human mind? Or is it just me who thinks like this?

Discuss.

Possibly yes, I have nothing against your thinking, I fully agree with you.

Happiness isn't a thing. For example, when you hang out in a group, and you say you feel happy, are you actually happy? In my eyes, nope. Your brain subconciously adapts itself to the situation to make you feel 'happy', but it's not actually the case.

 

Regarding 'fun': it only lasts for a short while, at least that's what I experience. After the fun thing is over you lose that feeling. Probably because humans always need more satisfaction.

 

Mood swings happen quite a lot, frankly. (or that might just be me) Not sure if that's related, but that's just my personal experience with myself and other people.

 

Anyways, sometimes I just pull myself away from the world, put on some music, lay down and let my mind drift away. My way of staying sane. (sort of)

happiness is feeling comes to you when you are in the box of your life's goal.

happiness is feeling comes to you when you are in the box of your life's goal.

Many poor people are more happy than rich ppl... Happiness is not mainly about life's goal.

happiness is feeling comes to you when you are in the box of your life's goal.

 

You broke all the rules I had for this topic.

 

 

Also, OT, I agree with most of your opinions, you completed what I started. I feel the same as most of you about happiness and fun, it's just that I couldn't form it all in a single post.

Also, about that depression part...

 

For my part, depression is more like having lost hope for a good life.

 

I think of it differently. People who lived a better life on average, and then went to worse for aome reason, they would be nostalgic and claim they're depressed, while they were in the same state the whole time.

 

The worst feeling is when you have something, but you lose it. Much worse than never having anything.

An african child is OK with a small piece of meat every few days, but a rich person that has been eating like a king for his whole life, would be very depressed with that little food if he lost his fortune and became homeless. Again, I think he actually feels the same inside, it's our brain decieving us we were happy before, just because things got worse.

When you stop caring about yourself, prioritizing others above yourself, your "inner world", soul, spirit, whatever it is, gets cold.

 

This. I've found myself making much more hateful comments on people irl since I stopped giving a damn.

When you stop caring about yourself, prioritizing others above yourself, your "inner world", soul, spirit, whatever it is, gets cold.

 

This. I've found myself making much more hateful comments on people irl since I stopped giving a damn.

 

Are you guys my mental doubles?

Are you guys my mental doubles?

 

The internet is a safer place to expose oneself, since nobody really knows you in real life, which gives you some free mental space.

 

Indeed. In real life, nobody knows the 'real me'. I guess on the internet or with other creative things you have so much more openness to let the real you free.

Are you guys my mental doubles?

 

The internet is a safer place to expose oneself, since nobody really knows you in real life, which gives you some free mental space.

 

Indeed. In real life, nobody knows the 'real me'. I guess on the internet or with other creative things you have so much more openness to let the real you free.

 

Well, for some reason people trust me and they open to me, so I do the same with some of them. Seriously, I have some kind of a weird effect on people, they trust me with their secrets for no obvious reason.

 

Still, I have rarely found someone on the same level as me, people I know in real life are mostly inferior in intelligence, and their thoughts are not nearly as "deep" as mine.

Happiness is knowing that tomorrow will be better than yesterday.

sorry for my first post in this topic, i wasn't feeling happy i was feeling asleep, maybe i can give a good viewpoint when i get my mid year summation card that will be on Saturday.

sorry for my first post in this topic, i wasn't feeling happy i was feeling asleep, maybe i can give a good viewpoint when i get my mid year summation card that will be on Saturday.

 

Again, a useless post. Announcing real post that will come after saturday. Why not just making post after saturday without announcing it?

Happiness is in my opinion life's objective. Happiness is a state where you feel extremely comfortable and with "inner peace". Happiness exists, is achievable and is something we all aspire to (as I see it, if at the end of your life you are not pursuing happiness, what's the point of it?). There are, however, different levels of happiness.

 

Next question assuming this is "how to achieve happiness". Here we must differentiate pleasures from happiness, not the same, but related. Achieving pleasure (e.g. sexual pleasure) is something that will help you feel happy, to some extent. However, that state is transitory, and it's difficult to be happy counting only on physical pleasure.

 

What's coming next is my own vision of happiness. You can or can not agree with me, but I've been living like this for the past 2 years and the personal experience couldn't be better. In my opinion, happiness is achieved on its maximum expression by love. By loving you get to be happy. Love is the altruistic, unselfish "delivery of yourself", to everyone. Giving yourself to others. The base of love for everyone if we assume yet again this is true is the same, but you're not going to "give yourself" to your mother the same way you'll do it to your girlfriend. The difference is defined by the amount of intimacy you share with that person, and that configures how you love in the last extent.

Therefore, we can see we can love everyone, no matter their relationship status with us (friends, family, gf, etc.) Despite it must be a love based on altruism, it is hard to sustain if there's no reciprocity from the other side.

 

That's why the maximum happiness (imho) is achieved when both parts decide to love each other like this. Not looking for themselves, but for the others. And looking for the others is how you achieve your own happiness. I can say I've been very happy during my past years, and that since I've tried to live like this I've felt way better with myself. On another side, my relationships have worked a lot better when we both have been aware of this.

Happiness is the feeling you get when you fulfill what your mind wants from you. The concept of it being a lack of other emotions is an interesting one that I hadn't considered before.

 

Anyway, what what your mind wants from you varies depending on the person, but most of it is simply due to instinct. The fact that most derive their happiness from relationships with others is simply because our minds generally want us to be socially active, so that we can stay safe in a group environment, and reproduce.

 

It's essentially the same mechanism as pain. You do things your mind doesn't want you to do, it imparts punishment on you in the form of pain. When you do what it wants, you get a reward in the form of "happiness". It's kept the human race going for millions of years.

 

The only reason people ever do what they do is to get the reward and avoid the punishment. Even when they help other people, it's simply an instinct developed to preserve the race. What society refers to as "evil" people simply have their minds set up in a different way to "good" people. Both are looking for the same thing.

Hello, I'd like to start a new "series" of philosophical threads. The first one will be about happiness. I was encouraged by some people from IRC yesterday. Please, if you don't have anything smart to say, then don't. Same goes for grammar, philosophy is very specific, and if you can't express yourself the right way, your message loses it's point.

 

 

I shall start. What is your view of hapiness? Does it really exsist? The way I look at it, hapiness is just a brief moment when all the real feels are absent. But how often does that happen? Surekly, achieving a certain goal does it, but the moment you achieve something, you want more. That's why I don't think happiness exsists at all, it's just that moment when you had no wishes, nothing to be greedy about. A moment so short, as short as it takes your brain to process the event of you achieving something and setting new goal.

 

Same thing goes for when you remember a moment when you had "fun". Do you really think you were happy at that moment, or is it just your brain decieveing you because you put on a fake smile at that moment. If you could read your mind from that moments, I doubt it would be happiness inside.

 

Are people chronically depressed? If they are, is depression normal state if human mind? Or is it just me who thinks like this?

Discuss.

 

 

Someone has not been fucked in a long time.

Seriously, are you gay, who share with you this stuff on this forum?

Get the fuck out of here your disgusting canser.

Yes the internet is really good.

take suicide now, so that the cancer does not affect us who are lucky.

I'll give you a free pass to the Earth's largest mental hospital that is nearest cemetery in your city.

 

There you belong, your depressed gay bastard. serious take your own life, how bothered you even live with such pain and with yourself. Better hell than to live as cancer for others and for yourself.

You feel really not good, as do such threads on a forum like this. FACEPALM.JPG Now you really have disgraced your little fagot.

Most disgusting and most deadliest cancer as one can get. Would run over you and your """non exist brain""" with a bulldozer for free.

 

Whores are cheap but you are free. Did you get your value declared?

Hello, I'd like to start a new "series" of philosophical threads. The first one will be about happiness. I was encouraged by some people from IRC yesterday. Please, if you don't have anything smart to say, then don't. Same goes for grammar, philosophy is very specific, and if you can't express yourself the right way, your message loses it's point.

 

 

I shall start. What is your view of hapiness? Does it really exsist? The way I look at it, hapiness is just a brief moment when all the real feels are absent. But how often does that happen? Surekly, achieving a certain goal does it, but the moment you achieve something, you want more. That's why I don't think happiness exsists at all, it's just that moment when you had no wishes, nothing to be greedy about. A moment so short, as short as it takes your brain to process the event of you achieving something and setting new goal.

 

Same thing goes for when you remember a moment when you had "fun". Do you really think you were happy at that moment, or is it just your brain decieveing you because you put on a fake smile at that moment. If you could read your mind from that moments, I doubt it would be happiness inside.

 

Are people chronically depressed? If they are, is depression normal state if human mind? Or is it just me who thinks like this?

Discuss.

 

 

Someone has not been fucked in a long time.

Seriously, are you gay, who share with you this stuff on this forum?

Get the fuck out of here your disgusting canser.

Yes the internet is really good.

take suicide now, so that the cancer does not affect us who are lucky.

I'll give you a free pass to the Earth's largest mental hospital that is nearest cemetery in your city.

 

There you belong, your depressed gay bastard. serious take your own life, how bothered you even live with such pain and with yourself. Better hell than to live as cancer for others and for yourself.

You feel really not good, as do such threads on a forum like this. FACEPALM.JPG Now you really have disgraced your little fagot.

Most disgusting and most deadliest cancer as one can get. Would run over you and your """non exist brain""" with a bulldozer for free.

 

Whores are cheap but you are free. Did you get your value declared?

 

I think you just can't into philosophy. And you obviously couldn't comprehend what I wrote. To answer your question, no, I'm not gay, and the reason I posted this is because my life is fairly good but I don't feel happy at all. I'm just ...cold. Men have feelings too, but mine are getting numb. It's not depression that is bothering me, I would rather use an expression "emptiness".

Happiness does exist. Happiness is the product of some factors that could be unintentional and could be intentional. The most important factor is the "clean back". The clean back is to feel safe and be graceful and appreciate the gift you were given. To be graceful for the life you have been given. Another factor that could be partially similar to the first one, is to always look on the bright side. This is a must in the pursuit of happiness. In conclusion, happiness does exist, people just stopped trying to find it.

Offtopic: why do I feel everyone except a few on 4D1 are sad and depressed?

Happiness is when you have the feeling that everything is alright.