Please

put mod tools and dev. console.

I mean

fov,fps ... must be adjustable.

Can't you wait for this to even be realeased ? Also we can't put mod tools in if even ATVi hasn't made them/gave them to the public ._.

mod tools

 

mod tools

 

http://notepad-plus-plus.org/

mod tools

 

http://notepad-plus-plus.org/

lol

win

mod tools

 

http://notepad-plus-plus.org/

lol

win

 

the best tool ever!!

True mods are impossible in IW5 without re-doing a significant portion of the game.

without re-doing a significant portion of the game.

Well, that always easier than building the whole dedicated server from scratch (like happened with MW2) lol

But... I have a feeling that the whole dedicated server will be rebuilt...

without re-doing a significant portion of the game.

Well, that always easier than building the whole dedicated server from scratch (like happened with MW2) lol

But... I have a feeling that the whole dedicated server will be rebuilt...

I think all that needs to happen is making them ranked.

without re-doing a significant portion of the game.

Well, that always easier than building the whole dedicated server from scratch (like happened with MW2) lol

But... I have a feeling that the whole dedicated server will be rebuilt...

I think it's the other way around. You can code a fully functional server for the game client without any special tools required (of course you'll have to do lots of research on how the client connects and all that stuff), but recreating [parts of] the game without access to the IW engine is impossible. (correct me if I'm wrong)

without re-doing a significant portion of the game.

Well, that always easier than building the whole dedicated server from scratch (like happened with MW2) lol

But... I have a feeling that the whole dedicated server will be rebuilt...

I think it's the other way around. You can code a fully functional server for the game client without any special tools required (of course you'll have to do lots of research on how the client connects and all that stuff), but recreating [parts of] the game without access to the IW engine is impossible. (correct me if I'm wrong)

If you'll take a look at MW3 "addons", you'll see that it's not so hard to "hook" functions into the server (without the need to rebuild the whole thing).

Half of the stuff is the same as quake 3... NTA just copied the master server code directly from Q3 so it would work with the existing master servers for quake namely DPMaster.

without re-doing a significant portion of the game.

Well, that always easier than building the whole dedicated server from scratch (like happened with MW2) lol

But... I have a feeling that the whole dedicated server will be rebuilt...

I think it's the other way around. You can code a fully functional server for the game client without any special tools required (of course you'll have to do lots of research on how the client connects and all that stuff), but recreating [parts of] the game without access to the IW engine is impossible. (correct me if I'm wrong)

If you'll take a look at MW3 "addons", you'll see that it's not so hard to "hook" functions into the server (without the need to rebuild the whole thing).

Hmm, I was more thinking about stuff that isn't existent in the game itself (like a dev console that actually gives any output). But yeah, you're right.

MW2 didnt support mods at all too, aiw changed it

Only problem is IW decided to remove every single debug output in the game so even if we get a working dev console it wont output anything useful.

Only problem is IW decided to remove every single debug output in the game so even if we get a working dev console it wont output anything useful.

That's why we need a dedicated server based on the good old aIW dedicated

I'm sure that they removed all the output to force players to use exclusivelly elite for stats.

Only problem is IW decided to remove every single debug output in the game so even if we get a working dev console it wont output anything useful.

That's why we need a dedicated server based on the good old aIW dedicated

I'm sure that they removed all the output to force players to use exclusivelly elite for stats.

Considering NTA said that the only struct he couldn't match up was the gfx_map for PatchMW2FifthInfinity.cpp, and with a dedi you dont need graphics (unless im crazy) then you just asset restrict it and modify the networking to match mw3.... might work.

FOV is adjustable and some dvars are changeable as of now, but the lack of game-script compiler means - no mods - ever.

 

I thought this was clear by now. :3

Well nta could do some fixes on the source dedi system that mw3 uses(like fixing some password bugs etc).

Also you can use the addon method that it is used now( you insert a plugin dll in the server files e.g promod)

But activision after the 1.7 patch blocked almost every dvar except fov.If in iw5m this client sided blocker can be removed this will be beyond awesomeness