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RE: There is something wrong with AIW admins..

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Just a little input, that might be off-topic, on the recent issues. Around the end of last year, I -- after all kinds of issues that caused my thoughts to get more unstable, partly caused by the project -- actually posted a statement in the staff forum, and stated I'd pretty much be resigning -- or at least, taking a break. Even though no motivation existed to develop BO stuff (I don't like that game, and aO would add no value to it at all, except for piracy -- if I didn't get that game legitimately on Steam I wouldn't have known I didn't like it) at that point, I was still (up until a day before posting that topic) working on a huge update for aIW -- even though I wasn't playing CoD anymore -- there still were some huge things planned for both the client code as well as the server code.

 

A few days later (pretty much calmed down from the entire issue), I noticed some issue on the forums, that'd have required administrator rights to fix -- and as I was the only person with consistent availability (nobody else was available at that time), but my rights were removed, I couldn't fix it. Then, I noticed the database password hadn't changed, re-added permissions, made that change, and changed my default group -- as being on IRC with only voice rights seemed to have fixed the part of people thinking I'm the person to go to for everything, I really wanted to remove the public image that I'm such a person, so maybe I could finally focus on proper development of the code, while still keeping control over internal decisions.

 

Then, 2 days ago, in the morning, some stuff happened on IRC (where I'd normally dish out temporary kickbans to people to at least make me not mess up more, though in this case that'd not be possible due to a) me still not knowing what the discussion was all about (MD and jerbob92 playing some weird joke on AnubArack, with all other staff available there knowing what happened -- and me not) and B) them being identified with ChanServ, one of them even being registered as 'channel founder', others being on the SOP list, and having exempts set -- the complexity of banning people (.owner, /mode +e, /mode -e [mask], .aop del name, .kb name, /unban [mask], .aop add name, .deowner), even temporarily, for something they'd circumvent in 20 seconds to restart that same discussion all over again, making the ban ineffective decided me to even not bother doing such a kickban and c) people going all rage after such a temporary kickban), causing me to have a set of complex thoughts (which haven't gotten any better since I was kicked from the project, in fact, I've been feeling sick for 2 days because of that -- thanks very much), leading to finding something out that would be important to fixing my real-life situation.

 

After trying to tell my parents about that idea failed (and caused anger/rage from both sides, as they seemingly thought me hitting a door was more important than me knowing how to fix everything), I tried to calm down, though after starting my PC again, I was immediately greeted with some people whining to me about aIW. As such, I decided to delete my forum account (note that I hadn't been on IRC at that time at all) using a temporary account (note that I didn't delete any posts) -- and then go on IRC using qwebirc with another nickname ('NoLongerRegistered'), and ask about 'why is nta no longer registered'. The plan was to, after I got an answer, re-add my account data (which I backed up beforehand) in the database manually, and just continue on with the day normally.

 

Instead, MaxDamage decided to '.kb nolongerregistered stop trolling, NTA', and (though I might've forgotten the exact order of events) I responded by mass-moving a few topics in the announcements/information forum to a temporary (hidden) forum -- yet another thing that'd be very easy to restore, and would have no permanent effect. In the meantime, MD deleted my temporary account, and banned most of my IRC accounts as well, effectively removing all my access to even speak, and left, leaving a note 'if anyone sees NTA again, ban him, if you don't/unban him, expect to follow him' -- and posted an announcement requesting for new developers. An hour later, I was still not over the entire issue, and decided to rename (note again, not delete) the forum sessions table, leaving the forums with an error. I also wanted to set the 'administrator' flag for a few accounts, but knew that'd be a lot harder to restore.

 

Anyway, an hour or so later (where I was normally participating in IRC discussions using another nick), jerbob92 appeared, and people whined to him about restoring the forums. As he apparently was pretty much exhausted from some stuff he had been doing prior to that, he (reluctantly) fixed that, and then went on a rant towards me on IRC, which eventually ended in my final account (where I was already using a VPN) getting kicked -- and as the channel was moderated, and that was my last account with 'voice' rights, I had completely lost any and all power over the project at that point in time, and any means to talk with anyone involved. I completely lost it at that point, got semi-angry, and went downstairs to try talking about the issue with my parents. They -- again -- only noticed me hitting some inanimate objects, and whined about that, instead of noticing I was trying to sit down, in between crying and being completely angry, they started an all-out war, nobody caring about that actual issue -- again. 2 hours (and a few kicks in the fact by my stepfather) later, I finally went upstairs again, back to my computer, and trying to forget about aIW.

 

Eventually, Blitz contacted me, with the following IRC log (slightly redacted) occurring:

 

You not feeling well? :\
well, for one part, that
just started getting reasonably stable an hour ago
mmm
well, I just want to make sure you're doing better
they put up some radical announcement on the forum about you
which I took down a minute ago
jerbob is right cross with you though ;P
seems nobody can manage raging except for you. oh, wait, you fakeresigned too
so nobody seems to be able to handle fully proper

Wasn't over anything you did lol
yeah, I know
Was more the community and act
;p
=P
Anyway jerbob refuses to allow me to unban you right now
I'm going to wait for Max to come online
jerbob is worst in 'being reasonable'
he was main doubt I had on removing resignation post
Well, he had the most work to do when restoring the site
that's why
and main issue, as I'd needed him for SSH passes back then
could've easily restored initial stuff myself
mmm
but MD raged and killed access before I could do so
only had basic DB access, which wasn't sufficient
well, we'll get this sorted out
yeah
just do me a favor
and don't vanish =p
we care about you Bas
we might not understand you
but we do care
sadly I was quite planning to, as also recommended by parents
=\
they told you to leave?
well, they told 'we told you so' about 'the other people' taking over
The plain fact of the matter is, Bas, that alterIW can't survive without you
people can talk about getting 'new developers', but nobody can code like you can
that's why parents were all like 'you should make something of your own that's actually the same but way better, to show you're better than them'
sadly that's not easy enough
due to non-caring people

lol
well
you've set one hell of a benchmark for yourself anyway ;P
I'm talking to Jerbob
he's still upset
I guess what the biggest issue is
is the meltdowns you've been having
he's scared of giving you access and thinks you might be stable one day
but the next do it all over again
Honestly, you're the founder, you have the final say in this still
yeah, they're crazy enough
but I was thinking perhaps it would be better if you limited your own privs to limit damage from outbursts
eventually I'll forget about being reasonable
If you needed something else done you know you can trust me to do it
or Max, or Insignia
sadly 'the other people' having SSH access are too lazy to give me restricted accounts
I don't know enough about ssh to handle it
I can talk to jerbob about it though
mainly forum messing up is a problem
as other things take too many effort in such cases
ah
what kind of privilages would you need with an SSH account?
so I can talk to jerbob about it
mainly updating updater content/bootstrap content and updating/restarting master servers, other tasks are usually simple and infrequent enough to be done by others
[12]  SSH with extemely limited access is a account with no use
I think
we'll just have to wait for jerbob to cool down
as he's not willing to discuss it at all with me
wonder if it'll take as long as insignia
which is 22 hours and counting
lol
You managed to get Insignia upset? 
and that was just over a few jokingly-meant kickbans

that's a real surprise
lol
hhaha
nice
he'll likely come back when he's done with watching his TV series
probably
most people calm down after a while
but look, I'm sorry for the handling of this
it will be fixed
There are some people who are still on your side 
sadly jerbob isn't really the most calm person, even when you need stuff done
he's usually quite easily agitated

I know, I had a real fight having him add a simple function to the bansys
took a week
anyway seems you understand the situation
we both have to wait now
but you know I'll be here
to talk when you like

 

Once MD appeared, he likely was all against the ideas to just forget about it, and re-added the original announcement, started writing on a new one (containing outright lies), and eventually banned another IRC account I discovered I still had, in the meantime messing up the entire channel access lists on the IRC channel.

 

(note: yes, I like seeing 'issues' by trying to fake being an outside person -- at times I don't like how I started out with being on the 'inside' of everything -- sadly people have gotten paranoid because of that and actually think anyone with my ISP is me. :/ also, this post took me 40 minutes to write -- hope it was worth it.)

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The entire community will always be there for you, we can never back down on the guy who brought us all together in the first place and created something which was considered impossible. I don't know your conditions at home and all (but i do know they are pretty bad from your previous posts) but we will help you if needs be :D

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Well, aIW is gone and now you are completely in power. So no need to worry.

 

Also, the 4D1 community will always be here for you, because we know for a fact MaxDamage or any of the other aIW admins couldn't set-up something as complex as this. You are the coder we all need and as such, you are staying here. Period.

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SerPo and aabir, stop faking these God damn emotions you two, you don't even know who NTA is and you are both like "Mom, I will always love you, no matter what". At least say something reasonable, not this kind of bullshit.

 

Now you've got everything in your "own" hands NTAuthority, so good luck!

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Just some input, this is from late 2010/early 2011 or around those days.

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SerPo and aabir, stop faking these God damn emotions you two, you don't even know who NTA is and you are both like "Mom, I will always love you, no matter what". At least say something reasonable, not this kind of bullshit.

 

What if i told you that some people actually give a damn about people who have done something for them without asking anything in return? If such a person is ever in a pinch, i'll be more than glad to give him a hand. True, i don't even know 1% of what NTA is, but what i do know is that he is a good guy. If you think i'm "faking" emotions, think again. I don't play the game, I rarely ever come on the IRC and mostly never talk on it. Why should i give a shit? Because i care, that's why.

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SerPo and aabir, stop faking these God damn emotions you two, you don't even know who NTA is and you are both like "Mom, I will always love you, no matter what". At least say something reasonable, not this kind of bullshit.

 

What if i told you that some people actually give a damn about people who have done something for them without asking anything in return? If such a person is ever in a pinch, i'll be more than glad to give him a hand. True, i don't even know 1% of what NTA is, but what i do know is that he is a good guy. If you think i'm "faking" emotions, think again. I don't play the game, I rarely ever come on the IRC and mostly never talk. Why should i give a shit? Because i care, that's why.

 

Do you even realize this is from the early 2011 or the late 2010 ? ._.

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Do you even realize this is from the early 2011 or the late 2010 ? ._.

 

I do. I know that his problems with his fellow staff has abated. I just wanted to tell him that people will always be there for him.

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I'd say lesson learned : never let people manage things that you created with hard work.

 

Since the aiw is gone, those who wanted to chat and have fun moved to altergaming, and those who wanted to help and see about iw4m moved here.

 

In the end - you are the one with the most power on 4d1, and the community is smaller.

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Do you even realize this is from the early 2011 or the late 2010 ? ._.

 

I do. I know that his problems with his fellow staff has abated. I just wanted to tell him that people will always be there for him.

No you don't, you are nothing else than a weakling.

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In the end - you are the one with the most power on 4d1, and the community is smaller.

 

Well aIW also started with a small amount of users, and then growed alot. Since we have 150 418 users, I'd say we are growing pretty fast, and the fact that there is IW5M in the works which will pull even more people to us, we are on a pretty fast growing rate.

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No you don't, you are nothing else than a weakling.

 

I don't even feel like having a discussion with you, this will only result in an argument. You can consider me whatever you like, i don't even care.

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No you don't, you are nothing else than a weakling.

 

I don't even feel like having a discussion with you, this will only result in an argument. You can consider me whatever you like, i don't even care.

You are weak right now.

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There is something wrong with 4D1 forums...

 

I see old posts ._.

 

Why this is wrong? :?

 

Do you really have to annoy me on every single post I make? I dare you to try that in "Projects" forum.

 

This is wrong, I'm reliving aIW all over again. Nostalgia will fuck up my brain.

You'll turn into some InHuman creatre, more akin to a bear or pig than a man. Like '43.

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There is something wrong with 4D1 forums...

 

I see old posts ._.

 

Why this is wrong? :?

 

Do you really have to annoy me on every single post I make? I dare you to try that in "Projects" forum.

 

This is wrong, I'm reliving aIW all over again. Nostalgia will fuck up my brain.

You'll turn into some InHuman creatre, more akin to a bear or pig than a man. Like '43.

 

What are you talking about?

Nothing, just commenting on the quote train.

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Ah, that was the story behind the scenes. Nice that you summarized that for us ;)

sadly people have gotten paranoid because of that and actually think anyone with my ISP is me. :/ also, this post took me 40 minutes to write -- hope it was worth it.)

Yeah, Opferklopfer for example :)

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