Oh, I forgot the Гџ. It is used rarely anyway.

Just replace it by 'ss'

 

"Ich heisse rinks"

> abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz; öüä (only these 3 can be considered crazy/unusual)

how about Гџ

Most replace it with. 'ss' these days, even if it's wrong.

> abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz; öüä (only these 3 can be considered crazy/unusual)

how about Гџ

Most replace it with. 'ss' these days, even if it's wrong.

wonder why, a german keyboard actually has a fucking Гџ key (instead of the - or the \ or so, noticed when using my keyboard on a DE-configured system I had to 'diagnose' today), unless you mean in writing where it's impossible to not get it to look gay

> abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz; öüä (only these 3 can be considered crazy/unusual)

how about Гџ

Most replace it with. 'ss' these days, even if it's wrong.

wonder why, a german keyboard actually has a fucking Гџ key (instead of the - or the \ or so, noticed when using my keyboard on a DE-configured system I had to 'diagnose' today), unless you mean in writing where it's impossible to not get it to look gay

I wonder why the Гџ still exists anyway. Pretty much noone uses that relic nowadays... Well, nobody will rage at you if you use "ss" instead of "Гџ".

 

> abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz; öüä (only these 3 can be considered crazy/unusual)

how about Гџ

Most replace it with. 'ss' these days, even if it's wrong.

wonder why, a german keyboard actually has a fucking Гџ key (instead of the - or the \ or so, noticed when using my keyboard on a DE-configured system I had to 'diagnose' today), unless you mean in writing where it's impossible to not get it to look gay

na....the russian keyboard really looks like gay

Just because you cant read/use it?

I wonder why the Гџ still exists anyway. Pretty much noone uses that relic nowadays... Well, nobody will rage at you if you use "ss" instead of "Гџ".

Except some retarded german teachers *coough* ._.

I think because the pattern isn't qwerty related in any way, hank.

Just don't spend hours and hours here , and sleep more. This will give you more energy.

Just don't spend hours and hours here , and sleep more. This will give you more energy.

Sleeping 24 hours a day rather than 18? Again, the problem isn't 'energy', it's more of 'focus'. Concentration. I might even have something ADD-like; I never had proper concentration on my own projects even, just random 'bursts' that are completely unforeseen and unplanned, a psychiatrist in the facility I was in last year suggested such as well (as an explanation for my impulsiveness), it is a common combination with my actual diagnosed condition, and the usual point it first gets noticed (secondary education, where the workload increases by a lot) has never happened for me.

 

need some of those ADD meds which allow enhanced focus clearly. also sleeplessness, but my sleeping is already messed up enough.

In addition, it seems highly unlikely that my plan of writing some email is going to work; anyone know any alternatives? Again, external completion of secondary education certificates is not going to be a possibility due to such being only a) offered for low-level certificates which will not lead to proper education/jobs and any higher-level offering requiring completion of the previous level before being accepted for such, again leading me into a dead end.

 

Completing all 3 levels in a row might be a possibility, but would take 4 years, only be starting 2013-09 (when I'd be 20) and make it take until my 28th-29th until I'm able to work in a proper area, which is notanoption.

maybe when i finish my course, its 3 years, maybe i will go to germany or england

again, relevance?

 

so many people here seem to post completely irrelevant replies, maybe I should add a forum rule regarding that

Completing all 3 levels in a row might be a possibility, but would take 4 years, only be starting 2013-09 (when I'd be 20) and make it take until my 28th-29th until I'm able to work in a proper area, which is notanoption.

Why not? I mean, a lot of people with high-level education, thus a high-level, well paid job, begin to work around 27 or 28. For example, when Im done with school here, I will be 21 (yes, I know, blah blah). Then 3 years at a university studying International Relation for the Bachelor. Maybe 5 years for the Master. Therefore, Ill be 26 when I have my Master in International Relations.

 

Its a long time yes, but a high-level education is worth the effort.

And I bet you dont want to make your money with shit you dont like to do, right?

Completing all 3 levels in a row might be a possibility, but would take 4 years, only be starting 2013-09 (when I'd be 20) and make it take until my 28th-29th until I'm able to work in a proper area, which is notanoption.

Why not? I mean, a lot of people with high-level education, thus a high-level, well paid job, begin to work around 27 or 28.

that's the highest-possible mainstream level, however. I'm talking about a lower-level scenario, as my brain can't operate at such complete utter complexity (i.e. writing up reports like required for such higher-level shit)

 

For example, when Im done with school here, I will be 21 (yes, I know, blah blah). Then 3 years at a university studying International Relation for the Bachelor. Maybe 5 years for the Master. Therefore, Ill be 26 when I have my Master in International Relations.

Again, note 'highest-possible' and '26'.

 

Its a long time yes, but a high-level education is worth the effort.

And I bet you dont want to make your money with shit you dont like to do, right?

I'd be fine with lower-level crap (heck, even programming doesn't interest me currently at all), but seeing as everyone* I know does higher-level stuff, I'm horribly jealous at how everyone seems able to achieve such from a straightforward path.

 

In addition, theory of shit is just too boring and impossible for me to understand, and I've tried.

 

Oh, and 4 years of general education are just something I'm not at all interested in - I just completely break down when needing to even do lowest-level 'language-dependent' stuff like German/history, never seem to be able to remember biology and completely suck at understanding more complex components of mathematics. As I'd be unable to follow such in-person as well, I'd have to do so from home primarily, which makes another 4 years without contacts, which again messes stuff up. Oh, even in-person would only make me 'meet' "problematic people"; i.e. complete idiots, drug users, young-started smokers, convicted people and even drug dealers (really, that's what I came across during the last attempt to start at external general education completion), which are people I can completely not identify with, nor do I even want (or am able to, seeing their complete social dependence and knowledge) to intermingle with them. Also the pretense (which never happened, seeing as the situation fucked up before that could happen -- due to those language-dependent lessons, teachers being horribly vulnerable, the people there and the cramped space/single-exit location) of oral exams just horrifies me, as there's a 100% chance I'd freeze up during those due to lack of language confidence.

Completing all 3 levels in a row might be a possibility, but would take 4 years, only be starting 2013-09 (when I'd be 20) and make it take until my 28th-29th until I'm able to work in a proper area, which is notanoption.

Why not? I mean, a lot of people with high-level education, thus a high-level, well paid job, begin to work around 27 or 28.

that's the highest-possible mainstream level, however. I'm talking about a lower-level scenario, as my brain can't operate at such complete utter complexity (i.e. writing up reports like required for such higher-level shit)

 

For example, when Im done with school here, I will be 21 (yes, I know, blah blah). Then 3 years at a university studying International Relation for the Bachelor. Maybe 5 years for the Master. Therefore, Ill be 26 when I have my Master in International Relations.

Again, note 'highest-possible' and '26'.

 

Its a long time yes, but a high-level education is worth the effort.

And I bet you dont want to make your money with shit you dont like to do, right?

I'd be fine with lower-level crap (heck, even programming doesn't interest me currently at all), but seeing as everyone* I know does higher-level stuff, I'm horribly jealous at how everyone seems able to achieve such from a straightforward path.

 

In addition, theory of shit is just too boring and impossible for me to understand, and I've tried.

 

Well, do you even know what you want to do? Because here in Germany, for a well paid job you just need (in the most cases) a degree, otherwise you'll be doing the jobs noone wants/ the jobs only stupid people do, mostly boring/hard physical work or other badly paid crap.

And doing that shit with your capabilities/knowledge would be a waste.

Well, do you even know what you want to do? Because here in Germany, for a well paid job you just need (in the most cases) a degree, otherwise you'll be doing the jobs noone wants/ the jobs only stupid people do, mostly boring/hard physical work or other badly paid crap.

and in dutchland there seem to be the medium-level secondary education leading to something with a proper outlook, which in naziland only accepts people with a high-level secondary education. in addition, the low-level tertiary education does NOT allow continuation in medium-level tertiary education in this shitty country.

Well, do you even know what you want to do? Because here in Germany, for a well paid job you just need (in the most cases) a degree, otherwise you'll be doing the jobs noone wants/ the jobs only stupid people do, mostly boring/hard physical work or other badly paid crap.

and in dutchland there seem to be the medium-level secondary education leading to something with a proper outlook, which in naziland only accepts people with a high-level secondary education. in addition, the low-level tertiary education does NOT allow continuation in medium-level tertiary education in this shitty country.

And moving back to dutchland is not an option, right?

Well, here in Germishland it is possible to get a good job even with med-level education. But it isnt easy however. For example, a friend of mine cancelled Gymnasium (high-lvl) and went to a Mittelschule (med-lvl obv). Finished there, and somehow he got a job as a clock maker, which is pretty well paid.

 

Also,

only make me 'meet' "problematic people"; i.e. complete idiots, drug users, young-started smokers, convicted people and even drug dealers (really, that's what I came across during the last attempt to start at external general education completion), which are people I can completely not identify with, nor do I even want (or am able to, seeing their complete social dependence and knowledge) to intermingle with them. Also the pretense (which never happened, seeing as the situation fucked up before that could happen -- due to those language-dependent lessons, teachers being horribly vulnerable

To meet such people as

drug users, young-started smokers, convicted people and even drug dealers

you need to live in Berlin Marzahn or so... In high-ed schools you only meet a few young smokers and a few drug users... But sadly, idiots you will meet everywhere.

Well, do you even know what you want to do? Because here in Germany, for a well paid job you just need (in the most cases) a degree, otherwise you'll be doing the jobs noone wants/ the jobs only stupid people do, mostly boring/hard physical work or other badly paid crap.

and in dutchland there seem to be the medium-level secondary education leading to something with a proper outlook, which in naziland only accepts people with a high-level secondary education. in addition, the low-level tertiary education does NOT allow continuation in medium-level tertiary education in this shitty country.

And moving back to dutchland is not an option, right?

don't have any contacts there, nor money to get me settled for a bit, nor would I be able to pay for such clearly-not-funded-by-anything external completion. my mother neither, she doesn't even have a job whatsoever, but also doesn't have to actively look for one as she's apparently 'self-employed' but not making any money outside of a bit less than what's needed to come around.

 

Well, here in Germishland it is possible to get a good job even with med-level education. But it isnt easy however. For example, a friend of mine cancelled Gymnasium (high-lvl) and went to a Mittelschule (med-lvl obv). Finished there, and somehow he got a job as a clock maker, which is pretty well paid.

what is that second thing even, never heard it mentioned whatsoever. also, 'clock maker' is a classical-type manual-labor job, those clearly don't require higher-level stuff.

 

Also,

only make me 'meet' "problematic people"; i.e. complete idiots, drug users, young-started smokers, convicted people and even drug dealers (really, that's what I came across during the last attempt to start at external general education completion), which are people I can completely not identify with, nor do I even want (or am able to, seeing their complete social dependence and knowledge) to intermingle with them. Also the pretense (which never happened, seeing as the situation fucked up before that could happen -- due to those language-dependent lessons, teachers being horribly vulnerable

To meet such people as

drug users, young-started smokers, convicted people and even drug dealers

you need to live in Berlin Marzahn or so... In high-ed schools you only meet a few young smokers and a few drug users... But sadly, idiots you will meet everywhere.

again, talking about the specific 'starting point' over here; external lowest-level secondary completion. the other few people were idiot turks who even threatened me one time when I didn't even do anything, and all of them seemed horribly oh-I-need-to-look-so-cool-with-my-styled-hair-and-leather-jacket people - again idiots though, like the majority of the population.

 

don't expect any other similar facilities to be different; again, to be unable to complete mainstream education instead of being 'put behind' you need to do some really crazy shit, which places complete idiots in such places obviously. I just had, well, different issues, but it's been considered 'too late' (during 2011-05 or so) to place me in mainstream education due to the sheer age difference and such 'difference' causing again a complete breakdown - I wouldn't have been in this shitty state if it weren't for me noticing being different and unable to fit in with 'normal' people back in 2009, noope, I'd still be happily working on interesting stuff having nothing to do with any first-person shooter game (as I wouldn't even be able to run CoD) and being fully content with myself. heck, maybe I'd even have been pressured by my parents into getting some low-level job to spend time doing some stupid stuff while wandering off with my mind and make some basic money. then again, that'd be less money than I make now (around 400 euros to spend a month), but my mind is completely fucked up from these 2 years of aIW and crap.

Well I don't know how it works in Germany but here in France you can pass some exams without having to go to school you only have to subscribe to an exam center saying you're gonna work to get the exam and then they'll give you a date, so the people in your case aren't blocked in their life progression.

 

Still that's only for certain exams but for most of the mid-low level exams it works, so once you get this exam you can apply to higher schools with high level formation (programming, network or any thing you enjoy to do), the most important point is to show your motivations and clearly explain them you don't want special treatments (don't talk about the fact that you already tried and failed with your previous scholar insertion tries).

 

Second option is to apply to a private school which will be less regarding to your past and will accept you because of the money (you can get money from the government if you apply to certain private schools...).

 

 

Also you should ask your parents/bro/german_forum_friends to help you writing something in proper german for all the mailing and administrative stuffs (you're not that alone).

 

 

 

For the record : The guy who finished the hydrogen nuclear bob program for the French gov was a guy like you the program was stuck since two years but when the guy had to go to the army he passed an IQ test and he's been put in some big schools nearly instantly.

 

Once he had learned about the stuffs, he solved the problem in three months after being assigned to the project, so there's always good hope, army can be a good solution as they give you a job which will fit at the best with your skills and they don't bother about who you are and where you do you come from if you're good at doing the job...

 

 

 

Edit : If you feel your mind fucked by the aIW thingy just hold on and do something else, like finish some games or try finding a job in your area...ect and then if you feel yourself to go back to 4D1 stuffs then just come back

Well I don't know how it works in Germany but here in France you can pass some exams without having to go to school you only have to subscribe to an exam center saying you're gonna work to get the exam and then they'll give you a date, so the people in your case aren't blocked in their life progression.

Such things still seem to exist here, but they apparently require registration through an acknowledged institution providing prerequisites for such an exam. In addition, I assume those have a dependency on the level below those, and exams are only given at the same time as the mainstream schools, which'd be 2 years without contact at the least for the lower 2 levels.

 

Still that's only for certain exams but for most of the mid-low level exams it works, so once you get this exam you can apply to higher schools with high level formation

not really, that'd be the way in NL as there the medium level allows some sensible 'higher education' (and the higher level's theoretical education does not interest me at all), but over here the medium level only allows similar crap to the low level, and both theoretical and practical higher education require high-level secondary completion, which also seems to be hardasfuck.

 

the most important point is to show your motivations and clearly explain them you don't want special treatments

so I'd have to be denied as I haven't gone through a normal process. I'm an edge case anyway, there's no way to deny such.

 

(don't talk about the fact that you already tried and failed with your previous scholar insertion tries).

right, and they'd clearly not wonder about the reasoning behind such 'external' completion

 

Second option is to apply to a private school which will be less regarding to your past and will accept you because of the money (you can get money from the government if you apply to certain private schools...).

I don't have money myself, and the second only seems to apply in very-limited cases. And again, that'd be mainly for mainstream-like education, which is not an option due to again the differences. Such 'external completion' cases are financed however, though only up to the point where it'd complete the legal requirement of 'at least having completed secondary education up to 8th grade or higher' -- i.e. only the first level.

 

Also you should ask your parents/bro/german_forum_friends to help you writing something in proper german for all the mailing and administrative stuffs (you're not that alone).

My mother is even worse at German than me, my brother wouldn't help out at all and never has written formal German in his life, and people on here would cause a false impression of me knowing how to write German properly, which during actual execution would show that it's completely false.

 

For the record : The guy who finished the hydrogen nuclear bob program for the French gov was a guy like you the program was stuck since two years but when the guy had to go to the army he passed an IQ test and he's been put in some big schools nearly instantly.

oh yes, the military's always an option, at least they attempt to assign some useful task to someone's abilities. now it's a shame I don't live in the country that I'm from, and that the Dutch military doesn't need 'random unqualified' software technicians

 

Once he had learned about the stuffs and he solved the problem in three months after being assigned to the project, so there's always good hope, army can be a good solution as they give you a job which will fit at the best with your skills and they don't bother about who you are and where you do you come from if you're good at doing the job...

except if they have lots of applications for those things and you don't wind up doing a random start-from-nowhere which could wind up in anything*. also there's the stigma associated with the military.

(don't talk about the fact that you already tried and failed with your previous scholar insertion tries).

right, and they'd clearly not wonder about the reasoning behind such 'external' completion

 

I was more meaning like don't clearly explain them why it failed, because well violent behavior is not that good

(don't talk about the fact that you already tried and failed with your previous scholar insertion tries).

right, and they'd clearly not wonder about the reasoning behind such 'external' completion

 

I was more meaning like don't clearly explain them why it failed, because well violent behavior is not that good

was I intending to mention that part?

it isn't your fault; that crazy nazi language has all kinds of crazy characters in it and stuff...

ohbtw, dutch has even more, though they're somewhat-optional in most words there in informal usage.

 

It is considered as one of the hardest languages to learn on the entire world.

and the hardest is chinese

(don't talk about the fact that you already tried and failed with your previous scholar insertion tries).

right, and they'd clearly not wonder about the reasoning behind such 'external' completion

 

I was more meaning like don't clearly explain them why it failed, because well violent behavior is not that good

was I intending to mention that part?

 

Well I dunno :|

 

 

Also for the army stuff you should try to apply to the NL army as you seem to like this country better and that you don't know how to speak proper german, still maybe german army can be good but I don't know...

 

For now try sending both of them an e-mail

Also for the army stuff you should try to apply to the NL army as you seem to like this country better and that you don't know how to speak proper german...

note that I'm not seriously considering that, maybe not even as a fucking last resort. also didn't I mention that country preference already?

Oh and also about this :

 

Well I don't know how it works in Germany but here in France you can pass some exams without having to go to school you only have to subscribe to an exam center saying you're gonna work to get the exam and then they'll give you a date, so the people in your case aren't blocked in their life progression.

Such things still seem to exist here, but they apparently require registration through an acknowledged institution providing prerequisites for such an exam. In addition, I assume those have a dependency on the level below those, and exams are only given at the same time as the mainstream schools, which'd be 2 years without contact at the least for the lower 2 levels.

 

Still that's only for certain exams but for most of the mid-low level exams it works, so once you get this exam you can apply to higher schools with high level formation

not really, that'd be the way in NL as there the medium level allows some sensible 'higher education' (and the higher level's theoretical education does not interest me at all), but over here the medium level only allows similar crap to the low level, and both theoretical and practical higher education require high-level secondary completion, which also seems to be hardasfuck.

 

 

To be able to go to a high level education school you nearly always need an "end normal education cycle exam" that's what I consider as a mid-level exam and this at least in France can be passed without having to go to school if you do all the necessary shitz, oh and there's no "dependency on the level below those".

 

Then being able to go to a high level education school depends of the mark you get at this exam and if you can't pass the exam on your own then there are some special stuffs for people who left school to get this exam, maybe it's the same in Germay

 

(this solution would still waste at least one year and in the worst situation two or three years)

To be able to go to a high level education school you nearly always need an "end normal education cycle exam" that's why I consider as a mid-level exam and this at least in France can be passed without having to go to school if you do all the necessary shitz, oh and there's no "dependency on the level below those".

 

Then being able to go to a high level education school depends of the mark you get at this exam and if you can't pass the exam on your own then there are some special stuffs for people who left school to get this exam, maybe it's the same in Germay

 

(this solution would still waste at least one year and in the worst situation two or three years)

nope, over here the case is to require a specific secondary completion (note: not the grades on such) or some can't-find-any-details-about-them entry tests which might have a minimum age of 21 (at least in NL they do) or require other even weirder stuff.

 

sadly I can't ask german people on here either as 100% of them are doing high-level secondary and as such have no idea on the other options.